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derrick_odd · 2005-08-02, 03:26 PM

Anyone know of a link or other resource that can help me to understand the way that women speak Japanese? Most of my native friends who speak decent english deny that there's enough of a difference to create a communication problem. But my Japanese is still really basic and the differences in syntax and particle usage, for example, are throwing me for a loop. I done googled it and I can't find much.

And what does "muri shinai de de" mean? It's in the context of a beginning relationship where the lady was expressing concern for me cause she hadn't seen me for a few days.

kurogane · 2005-08-02, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by derrick_odd

Anyone know of a link or other resource that can help me to understand the way that women speak Japanese? Most of my native friends who speak decent english deny that there's enough of a difference to create a communication problem. But my Japanese is still really basic and the differences in syntax and particle usage, for example, are throwing me for a loop. I done googled it and I can't find much.

And what does "muri shinai de de" mean? It's in the context of a beginning relationship where the lady was expressing concern for me cause she hadn't seen me for a few days.

Hey derrick,
The last first, "muri shinai de ne" means "don't push yourself too hard", in other words, "take care of yourself", "take it easy".....

Now, as for Wimmins' Japanese, there are no differences in syntax, period. The main diference is in final particle usgae and politeness levels, and also the use of euphemisms and or vague expressions.
As for the particles,
Wa at the end of the sentence is, for your purposes, at your level, a wimins' word. Don't use it; it sounds goofy coming from a man (there is a male final emphatic "wa",as in "Atsui wa (Feck it's hot)" but don't worry about that for now)
Women tend to say "So yo" in agreement. You should be saying "So da yo".
Women use Ne more than men.
At any rate, don't get your bum in a knot over those type of words; they are not crucial in strict semantic terms; they tend to modify and express emotion and attitude, or soften the previous statement, which is as much a cultural inclination as a strict linguistic issue.
Good Luck, man.

trip_hop · 2005-08-02, 04:26 PM

Try here.....quite a comprehensive article....

Manifestations of Gender Distinction in the Japanese Language

http://www.coolest.com/jpfm.htm

derrick_odd · 2005-08-03, 10:34 PM

As always, great replies. Thanks for the help.

2005-08-04, 07:47 AM

あなた女性の日本語もちょっと知りたいかしら。
あたしあなたを教えるわ。

Aweqmaster · 2005-08-04, 09:54 AM

Kyoto women, SO SEXY!
Their speaking of course.

I'd melt

aweq out

Monty Cristo · 2005-08-04, 01:01 PM

OP, it would be a good idea to pay some extra attention to your languge studies if you find yourself hanging around the majority of the time with people of the opposite gender. Most of the differences between male and female Japanese are slight, but if you are not careful you might end up sounding a bit.....er....light in the loafers.

kurogane · 2005-08-05, 01:52 PM

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Yes I third that! hahaha.
If you watch some EDO Kyoto japanese tv, man, those women sound so sexy, and so polite too. Guess they the same today too. Of course this discussion is part of language/gender hahhaa.

Tops!
aweq out

Spent last night with one of dem Kyoto wimmins and her sexy voice, eating Yakiniku and drinking beer. She's tall, she's slim, she's funny, she can drink beer and not turn beet red, and she likes me. ME! Go figure, eh?

Monty Cristo · 2005-08-05, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kurogane

Spent last night with one of dem Kyoto wimmins and her sexy voice, eating Yakiniku and drinking beer. She's tall, she's slim, she's funny, she can drink beer and not turn beet red, and she likes me. ME! Go figure, eh?

We've established that Kyoto women have great voices, not great taste in men.

Just taking the piss Kurogane, you have to admit you left yourself open for that one.

kurogane · 2005-08-05, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Monty Cristo

We've established that Kyoto women have great voices, not great taste in men.

She may not have great taste in men, but she sure tastes great to this men.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have a good weekend, Count!!!!

I'm done.

2005-08-05, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kurogane

Spent last night with one of dem Kyoto wimmins and her sexy voice, eating Yakiniku and drinking beer. She's short, she's tubby, she's funny, she can drink beer and not turn beet red, and she likes me. ME! Go figure, eh?

Good for you Kuro-chan. I wish you every happiness with the big girl.

Aweqmaster · 2005-08-06, 07:52 AM

Hahah, one of my best friend's ex-girl is a kyoto girl.
Hahah, didn't work out for him, so in front of him, if i mention sexy voice kyoto women, he gets uptight with me.

Apparently this kyoto girl's coming back to see him from HK.
And hahaha, I'd like to meet her, hahah, always funny to see ur friends' ex girls hahaha....

Tops!
aweq out

takai · 2005-08-06, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kurogane

and she likes me. ME! Go figure, eh?

the encapsulation of the Charisma man, folks

2005-08-06, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by takai

the encapsulation of the Charisma man, folks

You've hit the nail on the head here Takai. Still, who are we to begrudge charisma man his happiness?

kurogane · 2005-08-08, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by takai

the encapsulation of the Charisma man, folks

Better than being Looser Man, Buccaneer Boy.

PS it takes one to know one, and I know you are, but what am I?

2005-08-02, 03:26 PM	#1
derrick_odd Sensei Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 738	Womens' style of speaking. Anyone know of a link or other resource that can help me to understand the way that women speak Japanese? Most of my native friends who speak decent english deny that there's enough of a difference to create a communication problem. But my Japanese is still really basic and the differences in syntax and particle usage, for example, are throwing me for a loop. I done googled it and I can't find much. And what does "muri shinai de de" mean? It's in the context of a beginning relationship where the lady was expressing concern for me cause she hadn't seen me for a few days.

2005-08-02, 04:26 PM	#3
trip_hop GjyutsuPot Doshu Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Far, far away from the sewer pot... Posts: 6,843	Try here.....quite a comprehensive article.... Manifestations of Gender Distinction in the Japanese Language http://www.coolest.com/jpfm.htm __________________ ♪・♪:*:☆ ♪★ ♪ ☆

2005-08-03, 10:34 PM	#4
derrick_odd Sensei Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 738	Thanks. As always, great replies. Thanks for the help.

2005-08-04, 01:01 PM	#7
Monty Cristo Sensei Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chateau d'If Posts: 548	Catching Wimmin-speak-itis OP, it would be a good idea to pay some extra attention to your languge studies if you find yourself hanging around the majority of the time with people of the opposite gender. Most of the differences between male and female Japanese are slight, but if you are not careful you might end up sounding a bit.....er....light in the loafers.

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Aweqmaster Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 140	Hahah, one of my best friend's ex-girl is a kyoto girl. Hahah, didn't work out for him, so in front of him, if i mention sexy voice kyoto women, he gets uptight with me. Apparently this kyoto girl's coming back to see him from HK. And hahaha, I'd like to meet her, hahah, always funny to see ur friends' ex girls hahaha.... Tops! aweq out